"We Really Want to Be Scolded!" Shoutaro Morikubo & Kaito Ishikawa Longing to Be Lectured!? Criticizing the Trend of Not Being Able to Scold the Young!

On ABEMA, from 10:00 PM to 11:30 PM on Wednesday, January 29, 2025, "Say You To Yo Asobi Wednesday【Shoutaro Morikubo × Kaito Ishikawa】#32" was broadcast.

During this broadcast, to soothe the two who were exhausted from a series of unreasonable demands from the program from the beginning of the new year, a segment called "Praise! Teach! Encourage! Comfort Telephone" was conducted where viewers showered them with compliments, and they enjoyed chatting with the viewers. In the opening talk, the two engaged in a heated discussion about the issue of "not being able to scold the young."

The audience resonated with Morikubo and Ishikawa's views on "being scolded"!

The broadcast began with a reflection talk on the first month of the new year, as it was the last broadcast of January. The topic then shifted from Ishikawa's fascination with a particular drama to the recent issue of "not being able to scold the young." The normally lighthearted atmosphere turned intense as they engaged in a passionate discussion.

Ishikawa revealed that he has recently become obsessed with the drama "Sanctuary." He shared, "I drew parallels between the 'satisfaction gained from overcoming hardships' and the voice acting industry. When I was younger, I received 'strong guidance,' and I remember crying in the shower. But gradually, I started landing roles, and I had forgotten that kind of satisfaction. Remembering it made me cry profusely." Morikubo empathized with Ishikawa, recalling his own early days, saying, "I experienced that too. It's about what lies beyond the toughness."

Subsequently, Morikubo posed the question, "How do you feel about that kind of strictness today?" This led the conversation to evolve into the issue of "not being able to scold the young" due to the fear of "power harassment." Reflecting on the strict guidance from his seniors that contributed to his growth, Morikubo expressed frustration with the current situation, saying, "Feeling frustrated with your inadequacies and finding joy after overcoming them—it's said that this is the case. I'd like to give such guidance, but I don't. I feel I can't." He added, "I think it's actually tougher for those who aren't told anything nowadays. It's the external shocks, like being told something or feeling frustrated, that provide opportunities for growth. People don't evolve or grow without emotional stimuli."

He continued, "There are a lot of people who misunderstand being scolded as power harassment! I think it's fair to call unreasonable outbursts power harassment. But the misunderstanding that being scolded equals power harassment is, frankly, ridiculous." Morikubo criticized the increasingly challenging environment for scolding, and Ishikawa agreed, stating, "Scolding also requires energy. It's about whether the recipient realizes that the other person is expending energy to say something."

Later, they talked about how they rarely get scolded as they age, joking, "We really want to be scolded!" "We want to be lectured!" "Bring someone who can give us a sermon next time!" Their desire to be scolded amused the audience. The viewers resonated with their talk about the value and necessity of being scolded, with comments like "That's exactly it. Not being scolded is tough," "Sharp criticisms are painful when said, but they become self-reflections later," and "Sometimes you realize and grow by being told."

Additionally, within the program, a segment titled "Praise! Teach! Encourage! Comfort Telephone" was conducted. In this first broadcast of the new year, the segment aimed to comfort and praise the two over the phone from viewers, as they were exhausted from responding to unreasonable demands from the staff and had been defeated by guest Kazuhiko Inoue in a "double-sided debate" in the previous week's broadcast. Overwhelmed by the warm words from viewers, they expressed their gratitude, saying, "Thank youuu," "It feels great," and enjoyed exchanges with viewers, discussing local topics and favorite segments on Wednesdays.

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