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Episode 5 of "Say You To Yo Asobi Monday" aired on ABEMA on Monday, May 19, 2025, at 10:00 PM. This time, Shuichiro Umeda, who plays Jogoro Kobato in the popular youth mystery anime "SHOSHIMIN: How to become Ordinary," appeared as a guest.
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Umeda, who is a big fan of singer-songwriter Shogo Hamada, entered the studio strumming his guitar and shared first-hand the appeal of the second season of the "SHOSHIMIN: How to become Ordinary." Along with MCs Hiroki Yasumoto and Chiaki Kobayashi, he participated in various segments, including "Top Seiyu’s Shoushimin Level Check," where they tested through a viewer poll whether the three top-class voice actors still possessed their "ordinary citizen" sensibilities without forgetting their humble beginnings.
As Umeda's special skill is giving advice for people's worries, there was also a segment called "Problem Solved in 30 Seconds! Umeda’s Counseling Clinic," where he solved the MCs Yasumoto and Kobayashi's troubles in just 30 seconds. In fact, Umeda majored in psychology at university. When Kobayashi said, "It’s rare to be asked to answer in 30 seconds…," Umeda explained, "To give a serious answer, in psychology, instead of saying 'You’re feeling this way, so do this,' we study listening and drawing things out from people. A counselor’s job is to help sort out tangled feelings." Kobayashi replied, "He has the look of someone who studies psychology—he’s a really good listener and kind. I get why everyone would want to consult Umeda, so I want to ask him for advice myself," and thus the Q&A segment began.
Kobayashi's concern, "I just can’t stop doing a certain thing," appeared on the screen. He earnedestly confessed, "Even before meeting people, I can't control the urge to eat garlic," and added, "Is there really an option to eat ramen without garlic?" and "Part of me wants to be presentable, but there’s always a part of me saying, 'Just eat garlic!' and that side is way too strong." Yasumoto cut in, "That's just weak willpower, lol."
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